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				Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:11 pm
				by longlostposter
				imogene2004 wrote:It's a tie between Human Ransom and Interrogation 101 for me. Although, I think I like Interrogation 101 just a little more, cuz Jonas was so hot. But then again Daniel was pretty hot in Human Ransom, so I can't decide...what is it about guys being tied up that makes them so hott?!?


 
Men are SO hot when vulnerable; I like them that way.
Daniel was so hot in "Miss Me".
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:16 pm
				by colbertnationgirl
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:51 pm
				by luzdzus
				My favorite is "Poor Pluto" because it's such a nicely done piece of allegory and gives a glimpse of the darkness and despair behind Bree's cutesy facade.
A common phrase in Thelema is  “Every man and every woman is a star”, so when Bree says "That's when I stopped asking questions about stars", she could mean "I gave up and stopped trying to understand people". So sad.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:58 pm
				by Lurker
				luzdzus wrote:A common phrase in Thelema is  “Every man and every woman is a star”, so when Bree says "That's when I stopped asking questions about stars", she could mean "I gave up and stopped trying to understand people". So sad.
Would that really work as a metaphor for people if she was asking questions about literal stars before that, though?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:44 pm
				by luzdzus
				Lurker wrote:
Would that really work as a metaphor for people if she was asking questions about literal stars before that, though?
I'm not so sure the people weren't metaphorical too. In "Daniel Crossed the Line", Bree talks about how the other kids didn't even have the decency to pick on her - "I didn't even exist". Bree could have made up the whole "asking about stars" thing as a way to try to convince herself that at least they didn't like her for some reason rather than just being a nonentity - its better to be hated than nonexistent. She is a twisted little thing - that much we do know. The question is just how twisted and in what direction.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:16 pm
				by Lurker
				luzdzus wrote:Lurker wrote:
Would that really work as a metaphor for people if she was asking questions about literal stars before that, though?
I'm not so sure the people weren't metaphorical too.
 
No, I was asking could the stars in "Poor Pluto" have been a metaphor for people (the ones she would no longer be trying to understand) if she was asking her teacher questions about literal stars? It would be a really random jump since there had been no previous indication of her trying to understand people.
luzdus wrote:In "Daniel Crossed the Line", Bree talks about how the other kids didn't even have the decency to pick on her - "I didn't even exist". Bree could have made up the whole "asking about stars" thing as a way to try to convince herself that at least they didn't like her for some reason rather than just being a nonentity - its better to be hated than nonexistent.
The metaphor would work even less then, wouldn't it?
Anyway, I think she wasn't lying about the stars thing. In "I Want To Take Bree To A Party!" Daniel says he remembers Bree asking those questions and being teased.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:41 pm
				by Balmung
				heyyy lurker long time no see
i'm back 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:37 pm
				by longlostposter
				Hi, Balmung.
I see no metaphor in "Poor Pluto". Bree says at the end that Pluto could join with other non-planets, or whatever she calls them. Since Bree doesn't have any friends except Daniel, it doesn't seem to be metaphorical. I think it's just Bree talking about her love of astronomy.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:24 am
				by Paul Monkuppet
				Interrogation 101. to me it was as if a very very young Tarantino directed it.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:30 am
				by milowent
				Lazy Eye
Hiking
Poor Pluto
My First Kiss
yes, i'm old skool
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:00 pm
				by wintermute
				This is My Story Now 
 
'mute
edit: and I still swear there's a clue in Hiking that we missed 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:20 pm
				by Lurker
				Balmung wrote:heyyy lurker long time no see
i'm back 

 
Welcome back, Balmung. Wondered where you'd wandered off to.
longlostposter wrote:I see no metaphor in "Poor Pluto". Bree says at the end that Pluto could join with other non-planets, or whatever she calls them. Since Bree doesn't have any friends except Daniel, it doesn't seem to be metaphorical. I think it's just Bree talking about her love of astronomy.
Yeah, that's the problem I always had with suggestions that she was being metaphorical with relation to herself. It just didn't make any sense since Pluto wasn't being alienated like she was and it actually had several friends, whereas Bree only had Daniel.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:48 pm
				by HyeMew
				You guys don't get the metaphor?
Pluto's only friend was UB-313 basically. It along with a few other outcasts were relagated to the "minor planets" category, segregated from the regular solar system. Just like she and Daniel were outcasts from their high school and regular society basically. She was definitely being metaphorical about herself, how can you say Pluto wasn't being alienated when it was kicked out of the family of planets?!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:20 pm
				by Kimmi-Chan
				Grillz feat. Danielbeast, LG15, P. Monkey, and O'n.
yupp that's my favorite
I like, Skateboarding, Snow Angels, and For the Ladies too
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:20 pm
				by Ravensnow27
				Swimming, I love that video, sometimes when I get fed up with ALL that is LG15 I go back and rewatch it, makes me feel good.
oh and Interrogation 101 ssssssssssss.....HOT! 
