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				Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:13 pm
				by lorien
				Nieriel.Manwathiel wrote:
kinda like instead of "zhein" and "quarse", we'd be working on "zheinquarse"?
How's that different from what enigma, et al., are working on? I'm perplexed.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:16 pm
				by Nieriel.Manwathiel
				instead of anagramming each chunk by itself individually, perhaps something may come from taking them all as parts of a whole.
just trying to clarify the theory.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:16 pm
				by lorien
				*delete* Unnecessary. 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:18 pm
				by lorien
				Nieriel.Manwathiel wrote:instead of anagramming each chunk by itself individually, perhaps something may come from taking them all as parts of a whole.
just trying to clarify the theory.
Gotcha. Yep, that's how Enigma was getting the "epogen etc etc" sequences.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:18 pm
				by shifty
				Took other screencaps, maybe these will help better?
Braille alphabet: 
http://www.indynerds.com/images/brl01a.gif
00:04 Lower Left:

Possible translation: RHDA
00:19 Upper Left:

Possible Translation: LAD FINE
00:33 Lower Right:

Possible Translation: ZINEH
00:45 Upper Right:

Possible Translation: QUERAS
00:58 Lower Left:

Possible Translation: LIME
01:15 Upper Left:

Possible Translation: HES TERPINP
01:27 Upper Right:

Possible Translation: OIAMSAD
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:24 pm
				by McPackage
				lorien, in the summary, you have the same screencap for UR #1 and UR #2.  UR #1 is QUERAS, and UR #2 is OIAMSAD
And OIAMSAD anagrams to ADIOS MA.
Adios,
- McP
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:36 pm
				by Supa Mario
				This definitely has something to do with a Heinz Square...
what times does each of the codes exactly pop up? Maybe we can use those numbers and correspond them to a Heinz Square
I'm not exactly sure how they work...so somebody look further into this please
http://www.primepuzzles.net/puzzles/puzz_027.htm
^^ Heinz Square definition
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:38 pm
				by McPackage
				Shifty, those screencaps are great!
For UL #1, I see LAD FINE, where you see BAD FINE.  Check this out:
The braille B has two dots, but what I'm trying to show with the red lines is that there is some pretty clear black in the bottom row, which is leaning me toward it being an L.  What do you think?
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:56 pm
				by lorien
				Excellent!
Shifty, I took your new screencaps and worked on the contrast. They're on summary.
MrPackage, Thanks for catching that! Correction made.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:22 am
				by janesalteredstates
				lorien wrote:
Upper Left #1: Found by AcidFingers
00:19
"...the religion you're into..."
Braile: LAD FINE or LAG FINE 
Found by Logan, aprilawz, and swampiedonkey
Rearranged: AND LIFE Found by swampiedonkey
 
FAN LIED? Just a thought.
Upper Right #2: 
Found by NillaWafers
01:27
"...do the ceremony, too"
Also, note that the video is #0127.
Braile: OIAMSAD 
Found by mourningbelle and shifty
Rearranged: ADIOS MA Found by MrPackage or just 
"O I AM SAD"
 
AIDS MAO or SAID MAO but I never new Oppy to be a communist.
AIM SODA 

MIDAS AO (better not be an anarchy online reference. hehehe 
Midas the king or something. AO = Alpha Omega. Eh, I'm just brainstorming. 
Adios Ma is probably right.
edit because I like this one:
A SOMA ID
SOMA AID
Brave New World anyone?  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:28 am
				by Logan
				McPackage wrote:Shifty, those screencaps are great!
For UL #1, I see LAD FINE, where you see BAD FINE.  Check this out:
The braille B has two dots, but what I'm trying to show with the red lines is that there is some pretty clear black in the bottom row, which is leaning me toward it being an L.  What do you think?
 
That's what made me change my mind earlier. The length of what I thought to be a B was too much. 
Well, I think I'll roll with LAD FINE on this one, with a noted star (*) next to that F, which I think could possibly be a P. I had a reason, and it was a good reason when I thought of it, but I'm hungry and so forgot. I'm going to eat and hopefully will be able to come back with some semblance of coherence.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:28 am
				by mourningbelle
				Asmodai?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:42 am
				by lorien
				I'm playing with ways to look at the words as a collective message.
Hard life and Heinz Square Mile, Stephen RIP, Adios Ma.
Hard lad fine, Heinz Square Mile, Stephen RIP, Adios Ma.
Hard life and Heinz Square Mile, Stephen RIP, O I am Sad.
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Thoughts:
"lad fine" could refer to Daniel being fine.
"OIAMSAD" just seems like it doesn't need to be anagrammed.
"Adios Ma" could easily be referring to Bree's mother.
I don't think Oppy likes us to get too very complicated with these things. Therefore - what are the simplest solutions here?
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Ah! "Hard" comes right after the intro to this puzzle. Maybe a warning, that this is hard?
Hard: Lad Fine, Heinz Square Mile, Stephen RIP, O I am sad.
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Hard: Lad fine, Heinz, Square Mile, Stephen RIP, O I am sad.
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What about a letter format?
"Hard: 
Lad fine.  Heinz.  Square Mile. Stephen RIP.
Adios, 
- Ma."
Hmm. Has there been any reason to argue against Oppy being Bree's Pretend Mom? I know it's been discussed before. Any evidence against?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:00 am
				by itsreallyreal
				This will not be easy to solve...  
 
I am wondering... Lad is the user that has already done a drop or two.... Are we sure that is an anogram!?
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:07 am
				by JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
				The first 10 letters of the alphabet are also numbers 0-9, right?
So couldn't these also be numbers+letters... l33t maybe? (i don't really get l33t very well) or tinyurls?